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 June 29 2004, 15:53 PM |
páidín
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| JSmith13 wrote: |
| páidín wrote: |
if a father surnamed Ó Raghailligh had a daughter she would be Ní Raghailligh and if she married a boy surnamed Mac Giolla Fhaoláin, her surname would change to Mhic Giolla Fhaoláin.
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good, because i wasn't sure about the whole name changing thing. in a lot of countries, the woman doesn't change her name. or the maternal and the parental names are hypenated, as in the spanish josé rico lopez-rivera
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| April 30 2005, 4:07 AM |
goneal1017
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| my name is O'Neal so because i'm not married my name would be Ni Neal? Is that correct? |
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| April 30 2005, 5:27 AM |
Scotaigh
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my girlfriends last name is McDonald and is of Scottish Heritage, but it was originaly MacDonald way back, but she found out that she's Irish too, i was happy! 
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| April 30 2005, 6:34 AM |
Redwolf
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| my name is O'Neal so because i'm not married my name would be Ni Neal? Is that correct? |
Well, kind of. In Irish, "O'Neal" is "Ó Néill," and the maidin feminine form is "Ní Néill" (this is assuming "O'Neal" is your maiden name, and not an ex's name).
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| April 30 2005, 16:36 PM |
kenailan
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| Very interesting discussion! What about the common suffixes eg. áin (English rendering "in") or agáin (Engish rendering "igan" etc? |
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| April 30 2005, 17:42 PM |
Redwolf
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| Very interesting discussion! What about the common suffixes eg. áin (English rendering "in") or agáin (Engish rendering "igan" etc? |
Do you mean as in names such as "Gilligan"? As far as I know, they're just representations of how the names sounded to the English ear, rather than suffixes with specific meanings.
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| April 30 2005, 18:23 PM |
kenailan
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| Redwolf wrote: |
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| Very interesting discussion! What about the common suffixes eg. áin (English rendering "in") or agáin (Engish rendering "igan" etc? |
Do you mean as in names such as "Gilligan"? As far as I know, they're just representations of how the names sounded to the English ear, rather than suffixes with specific meanings.
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I tooke such endings to perhaps be diminutives eg Gill = Servant. Gilligan = little Servant? |
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| April 30 2005, 18:26 PM |
Redwolf
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| kenailan wrote: |
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| Very interesting discussion! What about the common suffixes eg. áin (English rendering "in") or agáin (Engish rendering "igan" etc? |
Do you mean as in names such as "Gilligan"? As far as I know, they're just representations of how the names sounded to the English ear, rather than suffixes with specific meanings.
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I tooke such endings to perhaps be diminutives eg Gill = Servant. Gilligan = little Servant? |
Oh, I see. I don't know...it's certainly possible. The older form of the diminutive ending was "án" (as in the name "Aodhán"), so it's quite possible.
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| April 30 2005, 19:26 PM |
Ailill
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| goneal1017 wrote: |
| my name is O'Neal so because i'm not married my name would be Ni Neal? Is that correct? |
O'Neal comes from the Irish Ó Néill.
I presume for females that becomes
Ní Néill
Although I've never actually heard it.
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| April 30 2005, 20:57 PM |
kenailan
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| Redwolf wrote: |
| kenailan wrote: |
| Redwolf wrote: |
| kenailan wrote: |
| Very interesting discussion! What about the common suffixes eg. áin (English rendering "in") or agáin (Engish rendering "igan" etc? |
Do you mean as in names such as "Gilligan"? As far as I know, they're just representations of how the names sounded to the English ear, rather than suffixes with specific meanings.
Redwolf |
I tooke such endings to perhaps be diminutives eg Gill = Servant. Gilligan = little Servant? |
Oh, I see. I don't know...it's certainly possible. The older form of the diminutive ending was "án" (as in the name "Aodhán"), so it's quite possible.
Redwolf |
Also very common is the suffix igh or aigh in sur-names. Usually rendered in English as "y" or "ie" would they be possesives |
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