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Tadhg an Mhargaidh
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Hmmm... I thought the Hillbilly Bears reference would have elicited at least one response...
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| March 27 2008, 11:28 AM |
BuachaillBeo
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as i said, i didn't mean for it to turn into an 'attack' of any sort and it was probably my own fault for just typing away without thinking about how i sounded.
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Nor would most people who post... that being my point so what good is IPA on its own if it's not complemented with normal phonetics that everyone could use.. the fact you understand it now probably comes about because of all it's discussion... if it was left on it's own it wouldn't have been much use though i think
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| As for a general pronoun, 'you' is so useful... |
it's of more use than IPA if the poster doesn't understand it anyway  and i'm not going to use 'one' 
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| March 28 2008, 20:30 PM |
mhwombat
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| Pwyll2 wrote: |
I'd say:
Connemara:
ˈkˠɪmɼɪ ɛɾ nˠə ˈd̪ˠiːnʲɪ oːnˠə ˈd̪ˠɑːnʲɪkˠ t̪ˠuː (cuimre ar na daoine óna dtáinig tú)
Munster:
ˈkˠiːnʲɪɟ ɛɾ nˠə ˈd̪ˠiːnʲɪ oːnˠəɾ ˈhɑːnʲiːʃ (cuínig ar na daoine ónar tháinís)
Ulster:
ˈkˠɪβɲi ɛɾ nˠə ˈd̪ˠɨːɲi onˠə ˈd̪ˠanˠɪkˠt̪ˠu (cuimhní ar na daoiní óna dtánaig tú)
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Just in case the OP doesn't know IPA, here's the pronunciation in WPA. The top line is Ulster, the middle line is Connaught, and the bottom line is Munster. Of course, WPA is only approximate. The hyena should be pronounced with the lips a little more rounded than you might expect, and tends to be pronounced as a lynx in Gaoth Dobhair. And the tiger is slightly less stripy in some parts of An Ceathrú Rua. But you get the overall idea.
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| March 29 2008, 0:53 AM |
Pwyll2
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Thanks Mhwombat, it helps a lot
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| March 29 2008, 2:55 AM |
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So long as the internal relationship between the components is regular and has an accepted set of external referents, I am happy with it.
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| March 29 2008, 13:36 PM |
mhwombat
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Some of you may have noticed the similarity of WPA to one of the writing systems used by the Naxi (a Tibeto-Burman-speaking people who live in China's Yunnan province). But they got it from us wombats.
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| March 29 2008, 14:13 PM |
mhwombat
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| Bearn wrote: |
| So long as the internal relationship between the components is regular and has an accepted set of external referents, I am happy with it. |
WPA has a very regular syntax, but a solid understanding of the diacriticals is crucial. For example, if I were to place a chocolate chip cookie crumb over the tiger, it would change the pronunciation of the entire phrase.
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| March 29 2008, 14:16 PM |
DoireTrasna
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| mhwombat wrote: |
| Bearn wrote: |
| So long as the internal relationship between the components is regular and has an accepted set of external referents, I am happy with it. |
WPA has a very regular syntax, but a solid understanding of the diacriticals is crucial. For example, if I were to place a chocolate chip cookie crumb over the tiger, it would change the pronunciation of the entire phrase. |
Is there a BNF for it ? is it LR(1) ? can I use YACC ? |
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| March 29 2008, 14:29 PM |
Tiarnan2
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That third one over on top is very reminiscent (orthographically speaking) of the frequently used Cherokee phrase "was it good for you too?" Note the piece pipe
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| March 29 2008, 14:34 PM |
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| DoireTrasna wrote: |
| mhwombat wrote: |
| Bearn wrote: |
| So long as the internal relationship between the components is regular and has an accepted set of external referents, I am happy with it. |
WPA has a very regular syntax, but a solid understanding of the diacriticals is crucial. For example, if I were to place a chocolate chip cookie crumb over the tiger, it would change the pronunciation of the entire phrase. |
Is there a BNF for it ? is it LR(1) ? can I use YACC ? |
Try with EBNF ...and hope the tiger don't know John Backus !  |
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