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 August 27 2004, 21:36 PM |
Mürk
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Different copula forms and functions are not easy to learn.
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| August 27 2004, 23:05 PM |
mhwombat
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| Kotex wrote: |
| On a scale from 1 to 10 could you rate how difficult a language Gaelic is. |
Edited to correct scoring.
Start with a score of 5..
-1 When you are learning a less common language, there's more of a spirit of comeraderie. Even someone who is fluent will usually be happy to have a chat with you, and be patient with your mistakes.
+2 The spelling is very wierd.
-2 ...but the spelling is very regular, so once you get used to the system, you will have a good idea how to pronounce unfamiliar words. No rough/through/bough/bought weirdnesses.
-1 There are only 11 (+/- 1) irregular verbs
-1 ...and they have regular endings
+1 But out of sheer perversity, some use an/ní/... and others use ar/níor...
+1 When to use "is" vs "tá" (like ser vs estar in Spanish)
+2 Multiple dialects cause confusion
+1 The colours don't correspond to the categories in English, Spanish, or French... (Let's see... if it's red but not bright red and it's a Tuesday in a month with an "r" in it I use "rua")
+1 It's VSO (verb generally comes first, then subject, then object)
On the WSLD (Wombat Scale of Language Difficulty), Irish is a 7
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| August 27 2004, 23:20 PM |
Kotex
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lol. Thanks guys.
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| August 27 2004, 23:20 PM |
wdsci
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. . . we were going with 10 being the hardest, right?
I'd put it at around 3 because I'm in no hurry and I can take as much time as I want learning - and besides, it's rather difficult not to be learning Irish when you're as addicted to the forum as I am 
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| August 27 2004, 23:23 PM |
Kotex
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10 is the hardest sh!t in the world and one is the the easiest sh!t in the world. The Kotex scale!!lol 
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| August 27 2004, 23:33 PM |
Kotex
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What would be a good way to go about learning irish. I know nothing about Gaelic. So where should I go from there?
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| August 27 2004, 23:34 PM |
wdsci
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| Kotex wrote: |
| What would be a good way to go about learning irish. I know nothing about Gaelic. So where should I go from there? |
I could swear I just answered that question for somebody else today . . .
Oh, wait, I did:
http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/translation/ftopic15612.html
(don't feel like typing the whole thing out again)
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| August 27 2004, 23:37 PM |
Kotex
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Wdsci, where could I buy/steal a English-Irish dictionary?
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| August 27 2004, 23:53 PM |
wdsci
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| August 27 2004, 23:59 PM |
Redwolf
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| Kotex wrote: |
| 10 is the hardest sh!t in the world and one is the the easiest sh!t in the world. The Kotex scale!!lol |
Well first, in response to your question about an Irish-English dictionary, both the Pocket Oxford Irish Dictionary and the Collins Pocket Irish Dictionary are available at Amazon.com, and both are good, solid, basic dictionaries suitable for beginners.
As far as learning goes, a lot depends on how you learn best. If you go to www.daltai.com , they have a list of classes and teachers throughout the U.S. If, like me, you don't live near a class or teacher, you're stuck with either a book method, a computer method, a video/audio method, or a combination of the above. I'm using "Teach Yourself Irish" (book and CDs, also available from Amazon.com) along with "TeachMe Irish" (available here: http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/learn/ ).
Hanging out here on the forum is a good way to start developing a feel for the language...especially if you use your dictionary and your growing understanding of how the language works to try to work out translations on your own (even if you're not ready to post them yet).
Hearing the language spoken aloud is important. A lot of us listen to Raidió na Gaeltachta (RnaG) regularly here: http://www.rte.ie/rnag/ (click on the button labeled "Éist" to listen). You can use the CDs that come with TYI or TM for this purpose too...or, if you're into music as I am, listen to a lot of Altan, Solas, etc.
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