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I've looked in my English/Irish dictionary for "hello" in Irish but there is no entry.
In English there is "hello" or "hi" and in Spanish there is "hola" pronounced "ola". They are all short words of initial greeting. In Dublin we sometimes say "howaya" which is also short sounding.
What can we say is Irish? |
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| August 25 2007, 9:26 AM |
iora_rua
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Dia dhuit!
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| August 25 2007, 9:32 AM |
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Thanks iora_rua for your help. 
Would it sound like "dia dit"? |
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| August 25 2007, 9:42 AM |
iora_rua
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Something like 'jee-uh git(ch)', I'd say (the (ch) sound wouldn't be as marked as, for example, in English 'ditch', and the 'jee' would be more like 'dyee')
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| August 25 2007, 9:55 AM |
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| iora_rua wrote: |
| Something like 'jee-uh git(ch)', I'd say (the (ch) sound wouldn't be as marked as, for example, in English 'ditch', and the 'jee' would be more like 'dyee') |
Thanks again.
I'll have to get my tongue and ears around those sounds, I'll listen out for the expression on RnG.
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| August 25 2007, 14:29 PM |
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| August 25 2007, 16:36 PM |
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Bear in mind that you'd only use "Dia duit" if you're speaking to one person. If you're speaking to multiple people, it would be "Dia daoibh" (JEE-uh DEE-iv).
If you're being casual, you can just say "hi" by saying "how are you" (like your Dublin "howaya"). As you're in Dublin, I believe the most common form there would be "conas 'tá tú/sibh" (KUN-uss TAW too/shiv). It may seem long, but if you listed to people on TG4 or RnaG, it actually comes rattling out pretty quickly.
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| August 25 2007, 16:52 PM |
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| "conas 'tá tú/sibh" (KUN-uss TAW too/shiv). |
By the way, that form is standardised and as far as I know, no Gaeltacht speaker would say that. The closest sentence would be "conas atánn tú?" used in Munster.
Conas is not stressed on the first syllable, but on the second one. Munster speakers even pronounce "cnuss". Outside Munster, native speakers don’t use that word (but cén chaoi in Connemara and cad é mar in Ulster).
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| August 25 2007, 17:10 PM |
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| "conas 'tá tú/sibh" (KUN-uss TAW too/shiv). |
By the way, that form is standardised and as far as I know, no Gaeltacht speaker would say that. The closest sentence would be "conas atánn tú?" used in Munster.
Conas is not stressed on the first syllable, but on the second one. Munster speakers even pronounce "cnuss". Outside Munster, native speakers don’t use that word (but cén chaoi in Connemara and cad é mar in Ulster). |
He doesn't live in a Gaeltacht, he lives in Dublin.
I have NEVER heard it stressed on the second syllable. Yes, sometimes the first syllable gets subsumed into the second, but that's not the same thing. Listen to TG4, and you'll hear it stressed on the first syllable all the time.
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| August 25 2007, 19:04 PM |
Richie
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Another point to note, the object pronoun is often dropped. "Conas atá?" "cén chaoi 'bhfuil?" or "'dé mar 'tá" are used in speach. In writing though, they're "conas atá tú?" (standard) "cén chaoi ina bhfuil tú?" (Connaught) and "cad é mar atá tú?" (Ulster).
I don't know what's the story with those folk down in Munster...
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