Irish Translation Forum

Ask for Irish Gaelic translations on this English to Gaelic, Gaelic to English translator forum.
Irish language translations given on this voluntary community site cannot be guaranteed to be correct. Always ask for a second or third opinion, especially for requests for tattoos, wedding rings, etc.

 Register to participate!   Log in   Search   FAQ   Usergroups 

Pronunciation help, please?

New Topic Post Reply

Translation Forum

12  Next

Author	Message
April 25 2007, 1:56 AM
blackkat "New Arrival" Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 3	Quote I'm wondering how to say this phrase: Is é mo chroíse do chroíse i gcónaí 's go deo. Thank you!
Sponsor
April 25 2007, 2:01 AM
Redwolf "Ard-Banríon na Ráiméise" Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Poblacht California Posts: 41,524	Quote blackkat wrote: I'm wondering how to say this phrase: Is é mo chroíse do chroíse i gcónaí 's go deo. Thank you! I'd say: Shay muh KHREE-sheh duh KHREE-sheh ih GOH-neess guh joh That "kh" is a gutteral sound, like the "ch" in "Bach" or "loch" Redwolf _________________ Is fearr Gaeilge bhriste ná Béarla cliste Is fearr Gaeilge na scoile ná gan Gaeilge ar bith
April 25 2007, 10:29 AM
Pwyll2 "Scéalaí Mór" Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Location: I gcoillte mo shinsear Posts: 2,177	Quote And trill the R's as in Scottish or Spanish... _________________ Is fearr Gaeilg chliste ná Gaeilg bhriste Learn the sounds of Irish here: http://www.loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
April 25 2007, 13:57 PM
Redwolf "Ard-Banríon na Ráiméise" Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Poblacht California Posts: 41,524	Quote Pwyll2 wrote: And trill the R's as in Scottish or Spanish... Huh??? I don't know about Scottish Gaelic, but I've never heard a Spanish-style trilled "r" in Irish. Tipped, yes...but trilled? Redwolf _________________ Is fearr Gaeilge bhriste ná Béarla cliste Is fearr Gaeilge na scoile ná gan Gaeilge ar bith
April 26 2007, 22:33 PM
mhwombat "Andúileach IGTF" Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Location: Dún na nGall Posts: 13,812	Quote Pwyll2 wrote: And trill the R's as in Scottish or Spanish... There are no trilled/rolled R's in Irish. I suspect you mean the non-rolled R, as in the Spanish word pero, which is how slender R is pronounced in Irish. In Spanish, only the double R's are rolled, as in the word arroz. We don't have that sound in Irish. _________________ Seans Eile - free software to help you practice your Irish Scéala na Wombait - Muddle-headed Memes and Musings
April 27 2007, 8:17 AM
Pwyll2 "Scéalaí Mór" Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Location: I gcoillte mo shinsear Posts: 2,177	Quote We have it. One-tap r's (pero) for single broad r's, and several tap r's (perro) for double broad r's. Slender r isn't pronounced as in pero, but as in Czech ř. Completely different sound. _________________ Is fearr Gaeilg chliste ná Gaeilg bhriste Learn the sounds of Irish here: http://www.loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
April 27 2007, 10:01 AM
mhwombat "Andúileach IGTF" Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Location: Dún na nGall Posts: 13,812	Quote Redwolf and I would have learned Mexican Spanish, not Castillian, so that might be part of the confusion. But I'm still baffled, because I've never heard anyone roll their r's in Irish. _________________ Seans Eile - free software to help you practice your Irish Scéala na Wombait - Muddle-headed Memes and Musings
April 27 2007, 10:30 AM
Tadhg an Mhargaidh "Scéalaí Mór" Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Location: áit na garaíochta, 'Gleann na Báistí', Dúiche na Réine, An Ghearmáin Posts: 2,634	Quote What Pwyll says is historically correct about double /rr/ in Irish but I think the distinction has largely disappeared. You will occasionally hear people from the Gaeltacht who roll the /r/ rather than tap it (especially word initial) but I think it's largely a question of (personal) style (but the tapped /r/ is what most native Irish-speakers use). I think the slender /r/ Pwyll is referring to is a fricative variant of /r'/ that is normally only heard word final. This fricative quality is normally not so apparent when /r'/ is intersyllabic. I think Spanish pero might be rendered into Irish as either péaró or péireo depending on the Spanish speaker. Is slender /r/ really (exactly) the same sound as ř, Pwyll? I remember trying to get a Czech student to teach me the sound and I couldn't quite get it (I think I was putting too much emphaisis on getting a /zh/ quailty). Strange that I may have been able to make the sound all along but didn't realise it. Dvořák = D(oi)bheoir-eác ? _________________ Beatha teanga í a labhairt, buanú teanga í a scríobh. (neafaisiú teanga í a thatuáil?)
April 27 2007, 11:03 AM
Pwyll2 "Scéalaí Mór" Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Location: I gcoillte mo shinsear Posts: 2,177	Quote Quote: Is slender /r/ really (exactly) the same sound as ř, Pwyll? It is. _________________ Is fearr Gaeilg chliste ná Gaeilg bhriste Learn the sounds of Irish here: http://www.loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
April 27 2007, 11:07 AM
Riadach "Craiceáilte" Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,014	Quote anyone else thinkin hippopotamus? _________________ Níl leigheas ar ghrá ach pósadh
Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First

New Topic Post Reply

Translation Forum

12  Next

All times are GMT

Page 1 of 2