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 September 25 2004, 3:32 AM |
glaucon
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Greetings all,
I need some help here with a translation. I've had 2 different Irish relatives of mine work on this one for me and I received 2 quite different answers so I'm not sure where else to go. I need a translation for: 'dark cloud'. There seems to be some confusion with respect to the interpretation of dark. I'm looking for the sense not so much of colour as a sense of brooding, menacing, gloomy. I think 'cloud' is fairly straightforward. One of the translations I got was something like 'scellan dubh'?? But I think this one has the wrong idea with respect to the meaning of dark. Anyways, I would greatly appreciate any help with this.
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| September 25 2004, 3:35 AM |
Séafra
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scamall darcha
dark cloud
scamall báistí
rain cloud
Hope that helped
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| September 25 2004, 3:37 AM |
páidín
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well, i don't know that much about weather expressions in irish, but i know that languages like spanish and otherwise don't use as much symbolism, idiom, and analogy as we do in english. i don't know if there is a translation at all that could have that connotation that actually made grammatical or any sense at all.
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| September 25 2004, 3:43 AM |
Brigid_CloverMoon
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hmmm maybe scamall gruama (lit.. gloomy cloud) in a sense of sadness, or melancholy, cheerless, dark
what you were given was black cloud.....
you'll find that dubh (black) in Irish is the color or complexion of something and doesn't really carry a morbid or morose sense as it can in English.....in Irish another word is used to convey that meaning.
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| September 25 2004, 4:18 AM |
Redwolf
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"Scamall Dorcha" is what I would use. "Dorcha" is "dark," as opposed to "dubh" which is literally "black."
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| September 25 2004, 4:27 AM |
Séafra
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wuuuuuuuuuuuuuups. MY BAD!!!! yikes.
I meant Dorcha.
soooorrrry all. 
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| September 25 2004, 17:23 PM |
Ailill
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| Séafra wrote: |
wuuuuuuuuuuuuuups. MY BAD!!!! yikes.
I meant Dorcha.
soooorrrry all. |
No worries Séafra but I always go bsck and edit my post when I do something like that. 
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