Irish Translation Forum

Siobhán Bailey wrote:Saw this one too on Saint Patrick's Day last year: Tabhair póg dom, tá Gaeilge agam.

Sure that's all well and good, but some of us have higher standards!

Tabhair póg dom má tá Gaeilge agat

-Ben- wrote:

Siobhán Bailey wrote:

Seán a'Chóta wrote:Tabhair dom an rud céanna atá ag an fhear ar an urlár!

I have learned an t-urlár, or is that Ulster Irish?

I would have thought it'd be an t-urlár as well, because it's masculine. I don't think that's just Ulster.

The t- prefix isn't used in the genitive or the dative. For instance:
Tá an t-úll smálaithe
but
Tá craiceann an úll smálaithe
Tá smál ar an úll

Abigeál

Go raibh maith agat, a chara!! Doh!

Shouldn't we change this pronunciation as well now since the rogue fada has been corrected:-

Pionta Guinness, le do thoil
Pine-tah Guiness, le doh hull
A pint of Guiness, please

I suggest just removing the "e" would be sufficient.

Abigeál wrote:

Siobhán Bailey wrote:Saw this one too on Saint Patrick's Day last year: Tabhair póg dom, tá Gaeilge agam.

Sure that's all well and good, but some of us have higher standards!

Tabhair póg dom má tá Gaeilge agat

Is maith liom é sin, a Abigeál but as I am single again, I cannot be too choosy....

Abigeál wrote:

Seán a'Chóta wrote:

Conor wrote:Tabhair dom an rud céanna mar atá ag an fhear ar an urlar!

Tabhair dom an rud céanna atá ag an fhear ar an urlár!

I noticed that you also omit the mar in yours, Seán. Is that intentional?

(I assume it is -- you don't seem particularly typo-prone! -- but just thought I'd doublecheck before making the change.)

Abigeál

*bump*

I'm shaky on these clauses -- can someone verify whether this should be with or without the mar?

Aibigeál,

I think both of the versions of the sentence work. The meaning just seems to change slightly.

Tabhair dom an rud céanna mar atá ag an fhear ar an urlar!
= Give me the same thing like the guy on the floor has!

Tabhair dom an rud céanna atá ag an fhear ar an urlár!
= Give me the same thing that the guy on the floor has!

Eoin

Eoin wrote:Tabhair dom an rud céanna mar atá ag an fhear ar an urlár!
= Give me the same thing like the guy on the floor has!

It seems to me that both of the above sentences are illogical: the guy on the floor can only have "an rud céanna"/"the same thing" as himself.

The most natural way to say this is

Beidh an rud céanna agamsa

If you want to involve the other person
Beidh an rud céanna agamsa is (agus) atá aige siúd.

Feardorcha wrote:If you want to involve the other person
Beidh an rud céanna agamsa is (agus) atá aige siúd.

But you've got to involve him! The "guy on the floor" represents the archetypal drunk that all real Irishmen aspire to be. It's no exaggeration to say that he's the spirit of St Patrick's Day itself.

Don't forget his ground-level perspective either - an essential detail.