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have not read the book but found this so hopefully it will help

http://www.readireland.ie/browse.php3?u ... pid=10&x=x

Published December 2001. This book took first prize in the category Teenagers 15-18 in the Oireachtas 2000 competition. The story is exceptionally well written and structured, making for a compelling read. Although set in Dublin and involving intrigue, drugs and an Embassy in Ballsbridge where some building work is taking place, the story is strongly rooted in the Gaelic traditions of East Kerry

so the dialect is probly munster

Thanks for that, Sean.
So would these phrases from the book fit in with Munster dialect?
Bh'leá Cliath
dod' chúrsa
anso
caradas
thosnaíos
nár thuigeas

I know what they mean but just want to know if this is why they're different to me. It seems to be more than just grammatical structures that are different to what I know.

fatchops75 wrote:Thanks for that, Sean.
So would these phrases from the book fit in with Munster dialect?
Bh'leá Cliath
dod' chúrsa
anso
caradas
thosnaíos
nár thuigeas

I know what they mean but just want to know if this is why they're different to me. It seems to be more than just grammatical structures that are different to what I know.

I've definitely seen Munster speakers use "anso," and combining "do do" into "dod" also seems to be a feature of the dialect.

Redwolf

Thanks, Redwolf. Can any Munster experts explain why Dublin is written like that? I understand the different verb endings and different spelling of anseo, anso. Does

fatchops75 wrote:Bh'leá Cliath

just fit in with these other variations and more importantly do I need to know anything to be able to read the book? I've put it to one side and am reading another book until I know what I'm facing.
Go raibh maith agaibh.

I'm not a 'Munster expert' but the explanation is simple - it is a semi-phonetic rendering of the way Baile Áthe Cliath is pronounced. (sometimes also pronounced 'blá clí)

scoobytyson wrote:the explanation is simple - it is a semi-phonetic rendering

paradox (for me anyway)

Is it therefore an accepted formal way or writing or would it be slang-ish?

AFAIK, you would only write it that way if you were an author trying to represent a character's dialect.

It's like writing Noo Yawk in English to mimic Brooklyn pronunciaiton. You would not want to put it on your resumé.

Thanks, everyone. It's making for a strange read...