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November 20 2009, 20:22 PM
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fatchops75
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Can anyone tell if both of these are the correct structure as each is in a different grammar book? When there is a verbal noun and a direct object, I know a pronoun can't follow the verbal noun so do we use different prepositions for different verbs or would do and ag both suffice? Go raibh maith agaibh
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November 20 2009, 20:31 PM
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Pwyll2
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Both are correct, however I don't remember having seen "ag mo" etc in books, although it's what Donegal people say (but they drop the g). In Standard Irish (ie. what you'll find in most modern grammars), it is "do mo, do do, dá", etc, as far as I know.
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November 20 2009, 20:37 PM
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czam2007
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never seen ag mo bhualadh but it seems it would be easier to remember than do mo bhualadh
Is foghlaimeoir mé Wait for 3 confirmations
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November 20 2009, 20:38 PM
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rossai
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dom' bhualadh...in munster
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November 20 2009, 20:45 PM
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fatchops75
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Thanks, guys. So would you use do for others as well eg. do mo fhéachaint do mo fhiafraí but is it ok to follow verbal noun with prepositional pronoun eg: ag cur isteach orm ag cloisteáil dom
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November 20 2009, 20:56 PM
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Pwyll2
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never seen ag mo bhualadh but it seems it would be easier to remember than do mo bhualadh
it's what Ulster people say, but since they're taught to write standard Irish, they don't write it... So would you use do for others as well eg. do mo fhéachaint do mo fhiafraí
you'd write "do m'fhéachaint" and " do m'fhiafraí" since mo becomes m' before vowels and f+vowels.
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November 20 2009, 21:05 PM
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fatchops75
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of course, I forgot about that, thanks a mill and also fatchops75 wrote:is it ok to follow verbal noun with prepositional pronoun eg: ag cur isteach orm ag cloisteáil dom
? Thanks
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November 20 2009, 21:10 PM
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Pwyll2
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ag cur isteach orm >ok ag mo chluinstin / do mo chloisteáil = hearing me ag cloisteáil dom = when I heard
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November 20 2009, 21:15 PM
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fatchops75
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Thanks, Pwyll you're great and this answers my question, but now this Pwyll2 wrote:ag cloisteáil dom = when I heard
has created a new question for me Can you explain this structure please and would 'nuair a chlois mé' be wrong?
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November 20 2009, 21:34 PM
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rossai
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it's a different structure
im sheasamh dom ag léamh dom im' shuí dom
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