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Post November 18 2009, 17:16 PM
sean.gallagher
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Hi, I've been doing a bit of research into the United Irishmen and the 1798 rebellion and came across the motto "Equality - it is new strung and shall be heard" using the Clársach as a metaphor for equality and as their emblem and it was later adopted as the national emblem of Ireland. I tried to translate the motto into Gaelic as best as I could in my own amateurish way but I coudln't find a translation for 'strung' as in 'stringing a harp'. Could anyone help me translate it as well as the whole motto?
 
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Post November 18 2009, 17:19 PM
Redwolf
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sean.gallagher wrote:Hi, I've been doing a bit of research into the United Irishmen and the 1798 rebellion and came across the motto "Equality - it is new strung and shall be heard" using the Clársach as a metaphor for equality and as their emblem and it was later adopted as the national emblem of Ireland. I tried to translate the motto into Gaelic as best as I could in my own amateurish way but I coudln't find a translation for 'strung' as in 'stringing a harp'. Could anyone help me translate it as well as the whole motto?


It's "cláirseach," actually. "Clàrsach" is Scottish Gaelic.

I have to admit that I've never found "to string" as a verb in Irish (or "strung" as an adjective). Perhaps just "tá téadacha/sreanga nua/úr uirthí"

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Post November 18 2009, 17:22 PM
Christy Quinn.
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sean.gallagher wrote:Hi, I've been doing a bit of research into the United Irishmen and the 1798 rebellion and came across the motto "Equality - it is new strung and shall be heard" using the Clársach as a metaphor for equality and as their emblem and it was later adopted as the national emblem of Ireland. I tried to translate the motto into Gaelic as best as I could in my own amateurish way but I coudln't find a translation for 'strung' as in 'stringing a harp'. Could anyone help me translate it as well as the whole motto?

Hi, Téad is the word for string [mus] so try ''Nua téadaithe'' Christy.
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Post November 18 2009, 17:22 PM
Redwolf
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Redwolf wrote:
sean.gallagher wrote:Hi, I've been doing a bit of research into the United Irishmen and the 1798 rebellion and came across the motto "Equality - it is new strung and shall be heard" using the Clársach as a metaphor for equality and as their emblem and it was later adopted as the national emblem of Ireland. I tried to translate the motto into Gaelic as best as I could in my own amateurish way but I coudln't find a translation for 'strung' as in 'stringing a harp'. Could anyone help me translate it as well as the whole motto?


It's "cláirseach," actually. "Clàrsach" is Scottish Gaelic.

I have to admit that I've never found "to string" as a verb in Irish (or "strung" as an adjective). Perhaps just "tá téadacha/sreanga nua/úra uirthí"

Cothroime -- tá sreanga úra uirthí, agus beidh sí cloiste

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Redwolf
...agus déanfaidh mé do mholadh ar an gcruit a Dhia, a Dhia liom! Salm 43:4

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Post November 18 2009, 17:24 PM
Redwolf
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Sorry...I meant to edit my post to add that, and ended up doing so too late. My suggestion was:

Cothroime -- tá sreanga úra uirthí, agus beidh sí cloiste

As Christy said "téada" is also used for strings on an instrument.

Redwolf
...agus déanfaidh mé do mholadh ar an gcruit a Dhia, a Dhia liom! Salm 43:4

"Google Translate is not a translation site. it is an entertainment site for teenagers too lazy to do their own homework" -- Doire Trasna
Post November 18 2009, 17:36 PM
sean.gallagher
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Cheers, that's really helpful!
Thanks for the correction too - I was in Scotland recently and bought a book on Scottish Gaelic so I probably got confused trying to concentrate on both.
Post November 19 2009, 0:41 AM
Antóin
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My suggestion:

Comhionannas - téada úra uirthi, agus cloisfear í

'Téada' is the usual word for strings in reference to musical instruments, even though the dictionary also allows 'sreanganna'.

'Comhionannas' is the word used for racial/gender equality - so I think it is more correct in this instance.

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Post November 19 2009, 5:45 AM
Redwolf
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Antóin wrote:My suggestion:

Comhionannas - téada úra uirthi, agus cloisfear í

'Téada' is the usual word for strings in reference to musical instruments, even though the dictionary also allows 'sreanganna'.



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That's what I've always thought, but I've had a couple of native speakers correct me on it. Maybe it's a Donegal thing?

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...agus déanfaidh mé do mholadh ar an gcruit a Dhia, a Dhia liom! Salm 43:4

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