Irish Translation Forum

well - i've never heard it either

Now you're even cause Oisín never heard of that s'agatsa jazz


Síocháin?!?

Méabh wrote:Now you're even cause Oisín never heard of that s'agatsa jazz


Síocháin?!?

lol - but i think my "s'agatsa" jazz is a little more proper

So does this sound right?
Here's to my friends
Seo Sláinte do mo chairde

Or do you take out "Do"???

Can ye leave out colloquial versions if ye can? It only muddies the water.

Ailill wrote:colloquial versions

???????? WTF

Your version is colloquial, non-standard.

Mine is standard and proper.

oisin718 wrote:Your version is colloquial, non-standard.

Mine is standard and proper.

Ailill wrote:Can ye leave out colloquial versions if ye can? It only muddies the water.

actually where i live it would have been said like that without all the "dhuit" stuff therefore i think that




Your version was colloquial, non-standard.

Mine was standard and proper



(where I live anyway - and ulster is a mighty big place)[/quote]

You're missing the whole point. The "duit" is to show the relation between the star and the recipient. "Do" expresses "to/for," indirect object.

"...a bheith i mo réalta seo agatsa..." doesn't make any sense. You NEED "duit." This isn't about dialects or colloquialisms. It's just plain grammar.

Let me put it this way, Conor. If you were to say "Let me buy you a pint," would you say:

Lig dom pionta s'agatsa a cheannach?

Maybe if someone had already gotten the pint and was preparing to pay when you offered to pay instead, but what if he didn't have it yet?

I didn't think so. You'd probably say "Lig dom pionta a cheannach duit."

This is same kind of relationship here.