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Post January 15 2004, 23:21 PM
Collis the Armstrong
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My mom's mom's surname is Hannan
the clan óHannains were Brian Borus like right hand men
they fought with him against the vikings

i just thought it was cool, im finally famous :roll:
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde.

 
Post January 15 2004, 23:27 PM
oisin718
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Is your family from Clare?

Post January 15 2004, 23:39 PM
Collis the Armstrong
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no, Co. Cork
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde.

Post January 16 2004, 1:00 AM
Ailill
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Well Collis, you have some warrior blood running through your veins. I read in New History of Ireland that some Vikings actually fought on the side of Brian Boru. The Galway Vikings joined the Irish against their fellow Vikings. Strange, like there are Bedouin arabs in the Israeili army (and Irishmen in the militias fought against Irishmen in the 1798 rising).
"Tá an saol mór lán den fhilíocht ag an té dar dual a thuigbheáil agus ní thráfaidh an tobar go deo na ndeor."
Seosamh Mac Grianna, Mo Bhealach Féin

Post January 16 2004, 1:08 AM
Collis the Armstrong
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and their were irish who fought against Brian Boru

*tear*

and i also read on the site that the Hannans fought against eachother in the American Civil War

*tear*

irish vs irish = insanity
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde.

Post January 16 2004, 2:09 AM
Tiobraid Árann
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Posts: 192
mate, there's more stories of Irish fighting Irish than anything else. We're our own worst enemy, always have been, and you better believe it. There were more traitors in Ireland than heroes, despite what Hollywood'll tell you in Michael Collins etc.
I am Ireland,
I am older than the Old Woman of Bearra,
Great is my glory,
I who gave birth to Cuchulain the brave,
Great is my shame,
My own family
Have sold their mother.
I am Ireland,
I am lonelier than the Old Woman of Bearra.

-Padraig Pearse.

Post January 16 2004, 2:11 AM
oisin718
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It's said that the first order of business of any Irish group is to split up into rival factions.

The 1916 rising was the first organized rebellion that hadn't been betrayed by Irish informers.

Post January 16 2004, 2:29 AM
Ailill
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oisin718 wrote:It's said that the first order of business of any Irish group is to split up into rival factions.

The 1916 rising was the first organized rebellion that hadn't been betrayed by Irish informers.


True, except they told Connolly it wasn't happening at Easter. :mrgreen:
"Tá an saol mór lán den fhilíocht ag an té dar dual a thuigbheáil agus ní thráfaidh an tobar go deo na ndeor."
Seosamh Mac Grianna, Mo Bhealach Féin

Post January 16 2004, 2:47 AM
oisin718
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:schlaumeier:

ATCHALLY...



Connolly had intelligence that the IRB was planning rising in September 1915, and that the O'Donnovan Rossa funeral would set the stage...so, when September came and went and nothing happened (because Casement hadn't had any luck in Germany), he got impatient, convinced that the bourgeois harp-and-shamrock boys had sold out the working class yet again, and he began setting plans in motion to take the Citizen Army out on its own.

Now, the ICA never was more than 300 strong, and a rising by them alone would be quick crushed, and would also prompt the Administration to crack down on the Volunteers and the IRB. So, Connolly disappeared one night in January, and Pearse, McDermott and Clarke took him to a warehouse on the outskirts of Dublin and laid all their cards on the table, including the promise that Casement was bringing help from the Germans.

Seeing that the nationalists actually were planning to follow through, Connolly agreed to go ahead with the plan.

Seán O'Casey thought Connolly had sold out to the bourgeois idealists, and Countess Markievicz was initially pissed, but when she found out that she would still have the opportunity to dress up in uniform and shoot things, she was thrilled.

Post January 16 2004, 14:34 PM
JSmith13
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Posts: 20540
AHHHHHHH, Thar's Republicans in them thar hills :mrgreen: Buíochas le Dia!! :wink:
Beidh ár lá linn.......go luath!!

I'm a beginner. Wait for more input with my translations.

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