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Post June 29 2006, 21:46 PM
mhwombat
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Garthstone wrote:I think I am doing ok with the single vowels and consanants. I do have some trouble with vowel combinations though.

GRMA for all your help. These are great threads.

I'm really glad you find them helpful. I will do a second thread on vowel combinations and which syllable gets the emphasis. (I don't want to overwhelm this thread with too much information.)
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Post June 29 2006, 22:27 PM
Garthstone
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Wombat,
Thanks for the input. You did pick out all of my mistakes the consanant clusters threw me, and also the vowel combinations with the fadas. I was pronouncing them with two syllables.
Other than that I will give myself a pat on the back and await the next lesson.

Garth
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Post July 03 2006, 6:17 AM
Redwolf
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Bumping for new people to see.

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Post July 05 2006, 18:56 PM
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Re-bumping
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son,
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

Also beware any of my translations. I am very much a beginner so always get other opinions.
Post August 26 2007, 21:35 PM
irishdoowop
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I continue to have problems with words using: mh, bh, gh, ng etc.What is the best method to overcome this problem ?

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Post August 26 2007, 21:42 PM
Pwyll2
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Can you be more precise about the problems you have?
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Post August 27 2007, 13:23 PM
irishdoowop
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The problem I've been having is the rolling of the tongue and what I hear as
slurring of other words. The second link you provided is terrific. I can hear
the sounds where I am having the problem and over time will be able to
correct myself. Self-teaching is not the best for learning the Irish language.
Does anyone know of Irish language classes in southern New Jersey not far
from Philadelphia? Thanks.

John
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Post December 12 2010, 18:32 PM
samohickey
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mhwombat wrote:Bríd
This word has a consonant cluster "br" at the beginning, but you treat it as a unit when deciding whether they're broad or slender. In this case, "br" is slender, as is "d". Remember that slender "d" has a special sound.
We have: slender br + í + slender d
So Bríd would be pronounced BREEJ. (If you want to be precise, slender "r" has a sort of "d" quality to it, so you could write the pronunciation as BRdEEJ... but maybe that's too confusing.)


So mhwombat, you basically did the little d by the R on the pronunciation "BRdEEJ" to show that your mouth has to shape as though it's being rolled? A quick roll, not long like in Spanish, but subtle. Correct?
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Post December 12 2010, 18:53 PM
mhwombat
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samohickey wrote:So mhwombat, you basically did the little d by the R on the pronunciation "BRdEEJ" to show that your mouth has to shape as though it's being rolled? A quick roll, not long like in Spanish, but subtle. Correct?

'Zactly! It's very similar to a the single R in Spanish (pero), but not the rolled double-r (perro). When I say the R in Bríd, the tip of my tongue briefly taps the ridge behind my teeth.
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Post December 12 2010, 19:12 PM
Redwolf
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mhwombat wrote:
samohickey wrote:So mhwombat, you basically did the little d by the R on the pronunciation "BRdEEJ" to show that your mouth has to shape as though it's being rolled? A quick roll, not long like in Spanish, but subtle. Correct?

'Zactly! It's very similar to a the single R in Spanish (pero), but not the rolled double-r (perro). When I say the R in Bríd, the tip of my tongue briefly taps the ridge behind my teeth.


Another way to describe it, in case you're a singer...it's the same thing singers do when they "tip" an "r" to enunciate it clearly.

At the end of a word, it can almost SOUND like a "d."

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