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U.F.F. Lamh Laidir an Uachtar

I found this quote, what does it mean? It was on something that belongs to my family.

mandywantstoknow wrote:U.F.F. Lamh Laidir an Uachtar

lamh laidir an uachtar - a strong hand uppermost is the usual translation given for this

the initials U.F.F. alongside the motto of the o'brien family struck me as rather strange,

(perhaps it should have read
lamh dearg an uachtar }

anyway maybe someone else can shed more light on this

Another way of translating "lamh laidir an uachtar" would be "the upper hand". For example:

an lámh in uachtar a fháil ar ___
to gain the upper hand on ___

You can read about the UDA and UFF here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFF

But I agree with Caffler. It seems unusual for those initials to be next to a motto in Irish.

Doubly strange because the U.F.F.( Ulster Freedom Fighters) is a Loyalist anti-Irish para-military Organization.

The UFF bizarely use "Lamh Dearg Abu" on their flags, or is that the Red Hand Commandos?

Urgh, there's so many of them!!!

You frequently see Irish on loyalist murals here in Belfast.

p.s. should it not be Lámh Dhearg?

An_Sionnach_2 wrote:You frequently see Irish on loyalist murals here in Belfast.

p.s. should it not be Lámh Dhearg?

Yes it should be but it's not what's written on their flag!

Somhairle wrote:

An_Sionnach_2 wrote:You frequently see Irish on loyalist murals here in Belfast.

p.s. should it not be Lámh Dhearg?

Yes it should be but it's not what's written on their flag!

I know, I've seen it. They should probably polish up on their grammar.

An_Sionnach_2 wrote:

Somhairle wrote:

An_Sionnach_2 wrote:You frequently see Irish on loyalist murals here in Belfast.

p.s. should it not be Lámh Dhearg?

Yes it should be but it's not what's written on their flag!

I know, I've seen it. They should probably polish up on their grammar.

I'm sure they don't give a shite about grammer! I nearly fell over when I saw the flag, and it being flown next to the Northern Ireland Football Team's flag, and a Skull & Crossbones! Ooo arr me hearties! Bunch o' pirates the lot of em!