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Post July 12 2005, 21:17 PM
mhwombat
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This is the third in a series of threads designed to help you improve your Irish by practicing with others. To give us a common core of words and phrases, we will refer you to online lessons, occasionally supplemented with our own phrase lists.

You can join this series at any time, at any thread. Click on the link below to find the first thread in the series, or a list of all the threads in the series.

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Most of the conversation in this thread will come from earlier threads, or from:

- http://www.erinsweb.com/gaelic1.html lessons 7, 8, and 9
- The "cheat sheet" below

Cheat Sheet
Here is a "cheat sheet" of phrases that we often use in simple conversation.

NOTE: You probably realise by now that beginings of words change (lenition or eclipsis) in Irish in certain situations, as do endings. I haven't explained those rules here; you can learn them from lessons mentioned above.

Describing someone or something, quick review

Tá sé __adjective__ = He/it is _____
Níl sí __adjective__ = She/it isn't _____
An bhfuil tú? __adjective__ = Are you _____?
Nach bhfuil muid __adjective__ (or Nach bhfuilimid __adjective__?) = Aren't we _____?

These questions are answered simply or Níl.

Classification statements

The verb , and its other forms (níl, an bhfuil, and nach bhfuil) can be used to describe something, but they can't be used to say what something is. For that you need to use a special verb called the copula.

Think of copula statements as a set of templates you can plug things into. You can change what you plug into the template, but you can't change the template itself. One of the templates available is a classification statement. A classification statement has the form:

Is + __category_noun__ + __subject_noun__. = __subject_noun__ is a __category_noun__

Examples:
Is fear Liam. Liam is a man. ISS FAR LEEM
Ní cat Dougal. Dougal is not a cat. NEE KUT GOO-gull
An ainmhí é? Is it an animal? un AN-uh-vee AY?
Nach madra Dougal? Isn't Dougal a dog? NAKH MAH-druh AY DOO-gull?

These questions are answered simply Is ea or Ní hea.

Notes:
1. In place of Is, you can have , An?, Nach?, Ba, etc. as appropriate.

2. In a classification statement, the predicate (category) is always an indefinite noun (a cat, a house, a doctor). There is another type of copula template, the identification statement, that uses a definite noun (the cat, the house, the doctor) as the predicate, but we're not doing that yet.

is used to associate a noun with an adjective.
Is is used to associate a noun with a another noun.


This is just a brief introduction to one use of the copula, so that we can practice using it on this thread. When you're ready, there are lots of excellent lessons on the copula on this site.

Nouns
múinteoir teacher MOON-chore
dochtúir doctor DOKH-toor
feirmeoir farmer FEHR-mohr
meicneoir mechanic MEKH-nohr
dlíodóir lawyer DLEE-uh-dohr
iriseoir journalist EER-ish-ohr
tréidlia vet TRAYD-lee-uh
Éireannach Irish person/thing AY-run-ukh
Sasanach English person/thing SAH-sun-ukh
Meiriceánach American person/thing MEH-rih-kah-nukh

Playing fiche ceist (twenty questions) is an excellent way to practice using sentences with both and is. Join us here for a game!
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Post July 12 2005, 21:24 PM
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Siôn is ainm dom. Is Breatnach mé agus is múinteoir mé. :wink:
"Dúid" Breatnach an tí. Is Breatnach deas mé.
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Post July 12 2005, 21:27 PM
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Breatnach - Welsh person/thing
"Dúid" Breatnach an tí. Is Breatnach deas mé.
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Post July 12 2005, 22:00 PM
mhwombat
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Muddle-headed wombat is ainm dom. Is Meiriceánach mé, ach tá mé i mo chónaí i gCondae Dhún na nGall.
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Post July 12 2005, 22:03 PM
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A Wombat, nach bhfuil Éireannach tú?
"Dúid" Breatnach an tí. Is Breatnach deas mé.
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Post July 12 2005, 22:32 PM
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Ní hea. Is Meiriceánach mé. Ach tá mé i mo chónaí in Éirinn le sé bhliain anuas.
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Post July 12 2005, 22:40 PM
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Cymro-Breatnach wrote:A Wombat, nach bhfuil Éireannach tú?
As this is leibhéil a trí

Nach Éireannach thú?
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Post July 12 2005, 22:44 PM
mhwombat
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If CB is one of the Ulster minions, he can use tú as an object! That's allowed in Ulster. Ulaidh abú!
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Post July 12 2005, 22:45 PM
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Ní hea. Is Breatnach mé. :wink:
"Dúid" Breatnach an tí. Is Breatnach deas mé.
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Post July 12 2005, 22:52 PM
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BTW, I'm just slagging you Asarlaí! You are quite right to point that out, because it could confuse people.
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