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There is Far too much English on this Site

Poll ended at April 27 2005, 23:47 PM

yes
17
37%
no
29
63%
 
Total votes : 46

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Post April 23 2005, 16:20 PM
Ossian
Gaeilgeoir
 
Posts: 367
This is ridiculous. Are we going to have a language police now? The bottom line is that having all OT topics as Gaeilge will exclude the vast majority of participants of this forum from understanding what's going on. It creates exclusivity and it's not beneficial to good "craic."

Sure, I'd love to be able to write completely in Irish, but I can't even begin to do that at this point. Once I have a good basic command of the language, then you're right, it will help to improve my Irish. But in the interim it will only frustrate the hell out of me and serve to discourage my efforts. And I'm positive I'm not the only one.

If people want more all-Irish OT threads, then create them, but don't be a dick and forge a hard and fast rule which will apply to ALL OT threads.

My 2 pence. :?
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Post April 23 2005, 16:30 PM
Méabh
Scríbhneoir d'Éigean
 
Posts: 23921
I'll be the first to admit that I don't try to make the full use of all the Irish I have here, but, as I said on my first post here - there's not "far too much" English, but I see it as perhaps not enough Irish.

The beginners who have been here for more than, say, a month should step up to the plate and start using at least some Irish words here and there. I did so, and many other regulars who came here gan fhocal Gaeilge ar bith also made the effort.

Making an all-out ban on English for ALL OT threads would indeed be ...umm...as you put it - d***headed :lach:

So, I'd ask the regulars to TRY to remember to use the Irish they have and give a new thing a go once in a while. A Collins Gem dictionary is available at many bookstores for about $6, so I really see no reason why anyone who wishes to continually contribute here can claim a good excuse for not having any way of looking up things.
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Post April 23 2005, 16:33 PM
abigail
Laoch na nGael
 
Posts: 1382
Ossian's right. We always end up in these ridiculous debates. It's not to say that you shouldn't use Irish, but a lot of us don't know enough Irish to carry on conversations. I mean, most of what I know is endearments. That won't serve much purpose in conversation.
But I have to say it...Ossian, what's the story behind your avatar?
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Post April 23 2005, 16:41 PM
Conor
Aistritheoir Cíocrach
 
Posts: 16141
A lot of you also complain you've nothing to learn from - if you are serious about learning I doubt you'd complain at something to look at.

:roll:

Post April 23 2005, 17:40 PM
Redwolf
Ard-Banríon na Ráiméise
 
Posts: 51638
I rather liked what we were doing last night. It was Friday, and no one but a few regulars was on, and we were joking around...using what Irish we had when we could. "Béarlachas agus Gaelish" It was like singing "Maidrín Rua" :lach:

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Post April 23 2005, 17:54 PM
PJ
Scéalaí Mór
 
Posts: 2978
I am hoping that people are using other methods to learn Irish and are not just using this forum to acquire the language.

There is a nice level of Irish used here when people are using it in conversation and I am sure that as beginnners advance in their learning they will only be too happy to jump in with their comments. I like mhwombat's approach when using Irish ( a mini-vocab ) and I will endeavour to do the same as much as possible.
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Post April 23 2005, 18:00 PM
Redwolf
Ard-Banríon na Ráiméise
 
Posts: 51638
I also think that newcomers and regular learners alike benefit from participating in the games and exercises that crop up occasionally. Fiche ceist (20 questions) is a great game we've played off and on for a while now, but it got to where only a few of us were playing it. That's a great one for beginners to get their feet wet with. We did one a while back with movie titles (I think Ailill started that one): What would we call famous movies if we had to name them in Irish? Mhwombat started one a while back asking "what will you do tomorrow?" (and I think there was one a little longer ago "what did you do yesterday?")...those are great ways to get in some elementary practice.

Redwolf
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Post April 23 2005, 18:05 PM
wdsci
Aistritheoir Cíocrach
 
Posts: 19048
Conor wrote:A lot of you also complain you've nothing to learn from - if you are serious about learning I doubt you'd complain at something to look at.

:roll:


:? I think there's plenty to learn from, and people who say otherwise maybe just aren't looking hard enough.

8O

Ceapaim go bhfuil mórán anseo is féidir le duine amháin foghlaim as, agus má déireann aon duine rud eile, ní chuardaíonn sé go leor.

Dá nd'éireoidh an leathanach seo Gaeilge-amháin, ní thiocfaidh mé (agus móraín daoine eile) amach. Níor maith liom sin a fheiceáil.

:) David
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Post April 23 2005, 18:10 PM
mhwombat
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I know it's especially difficult for those who are just beginning to learn Irish. But even a beginner could try to use just one Irish word in each post, or if that's difficult, even just a few words each day would be a major step in the right direction. It is perfectly acceptable to write a sentence be entirely in English except for one focal. That's a great way to start learning, i mo thuarimse.

My New Year's resolution was to use at least a little Irish in every post (unless it's info intended for a noobie). I did pretty well with that ar feadh cupla seachtaine, agus ansin rinne mé dearmad. Ach cuirim an rud sin i ngeall arís. (I'm hereby reviving that pledge.) And if anyone catches me slacking off, please remind me. Ba mhaith liom bheith níos líofa.
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Post April 23 2005, 18:14 PM
Peggi
Giostaire
 
Posts: 3975
Redwolf wrote:I rather liked what we were doing last night. It was Friday, and no one but a few regulars was on, and we were joking around...using what Irish we had when we could. "Béarlachas agus Gaelish" It was like singing "Maidrín Rua" :lach:

Redwolf


That was fun wasn't it?
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