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February 02 2005, 16:06 PM

Does anybody know how Caim is pronounced? We are using this prayer at our wedding & I want to make sure the priest says it correctly. Thanks!

February 02 2005, 16:19 PM

Which prayer is that?

More context is probably needed here, to help us give you the right pronunciation.

I know cam = "bent", or cáim = "flaw" -- they're pronounced differently, though, so would need the translation to know which one you are using.

Abigeál

February 02 2005, 16:20 PM

I've never heard of that word before, or any type of prayer associated with it. As a prefix "caim-" can mean "crooked" or "bent."

"Cáim" with a sineadh fada over the "a" means "fault" or "blemish."

Where did you find this "Caim Prayer?" Can you post the words?

February 02 2005, 16:36 PM

I have it that "caim" is the genitive of "cam," which means a loop, twist, bend in the road, spin, swindle, or betrayal.

An Focloir Beag wrote:cam [ainmfhocal firinscneach den chéad díochlaonadh]
lúb, cor, casadh, calaois, feall.

I'm with you, though, Oisín -- I still don't know of any prayers involving the word...

Abigeál

February 02 2005, 16:42 PM

I found something called a "Caim Prayer" here:

Caim
The Celtic Christians had a practice called the 'caim', in which they drew around them a circle.... this was a symbol of the encircling love of God.

A Caim Prayer

The Mighty Three
My protection be
Encircling me
You are around
My life, my home
Encircling me
O Sacred Three
The Mighty Three

February 02 2005, 16:52 PM

That still doesn't help us as to how to pronounce "caim," since it doesn't appear to be a real word.

:nixweiss:

February 02 2005, 16:59 PM

'course it's a real word!
It's just in another language: "Celtic," instead of Irish... :twisted:

February 02 2005, 20:12 PM

I've never heard of it either. You won't find it in any dictionary of Modern Irish.

February 02 2005, 22:57 PM

Abigeal wrote:I found something called a "Caim Prayer" here:

Caim
The Celtic Christians had a practice called the 'caim', in which they drew around them a circle.... this was a symbol of the encircling love of God.

A Caim Prayer

The Mighty Three
My protection be
Encircling me
You are around
My life, my home
Encircling me
O Sacred Three
The Mighty Three

.... yet another Celtic = Irish only site. :roll:

February 02 2005, 23:51 PM

there there Cymro (pats him on the back )

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