Irish Translation Forum

feictear go bhfuil -- it seems that (one sees that)
feictear dúinn -- it seems to us (one sees for us)

feictear sinn -- we seem (one sees us)

It's as close as I can come.

oisin718 wrote:feictear go bhfuil -- it seems that (one sees that)
feictear dúinn -- it seems to us (one sees for us)

feictear sinn -- we seem (one sees us)

It's as close as I can come.

Yeah, the "seems", in this context, is a bit of a fecker, I think.

I'm not sure that "feictear sinn" covers it.

Here's an effort of mine - which may not cover it either ..and which may move it further away.

Níl san iomlán dá bhfeicimid agus dá bhfeictear inar gcosúlacht ach brionglóid istigh i mbrionglóid.

I also thought about using "dá bhfeictear ionainn" to get close to "seem" in the context of the quote but I'm not sure?

The "seeming" notwithstanding -- I don't think yours is any closer to mine -- why do you have "dá?"

Lit. There is not in all things that we see and that are seen...

Feicim an rud
Seo é an rud a fheicim

Feictear é
Ní hé sin cad a fheictear é

I don't see why you would use anything but the simple direct relative "a" + len.

How about dealradh?

Ailill wrote:How about dealradh?

Then you lose the "see/seem" connection.

oisin718 wrote:The "seeming" notwithstanding -- I don't think yours is any closer to mine -- why do you have "dá?"

Lit. There is not in all things that we see and that are seen...

Feicim an rud
Seo é an rud a fheicim

Feictear é
Ní hé sin cad a fheictear é

I don't see why you would use anything but the simple direct relative "a" + len.

Yup.......I don't think mine is any closer, either, just a bit different.

Why did I use "dá" - I just felt like it. It's a nice way (I think ) of saying "of which".

"iomlán dá bhfeicimid" = "all of which we see" or "all we see".

I could have used a simple direct relative but I thought "dá" was purty.

Taitníonn sé leis an bhfile a chónaíonn, gan sásamh, gan sult 'is gan saoirse, sna ascaillí uaigneacha, iargúlta, eascairdiúla de m'anam casta, céasta, cáinte.

so should i stick with Osisin's translation as most accurate?