Irish Translation Forum

Hello,

What does Rud ar bhith eile translate to please? I was listening to Irish radio and heard that phrase, but I could not translate it.

thanks!

"bith" is an old form for world, so "rud eile ar bith" anything else in the world..something else
"rud ar bith eile" would mean something on another world...

I'd go with Breandán's translation. It's a common phrase in everyday use, Rossai's take makes it seem inter-galactic

Beagle wrote:I'd go with Breandán's translation. It's a common phrase in everyday use, Rossai's take makes it seem inter-galactic

I only translate what's written down.

rud eile ar bith...rud ar bith eile mean different things. That's not my take on it, that's the way it is.

And my take is the same as Breandán's. Your trans makes a complex idea out of an everyday run-of-the-mill one

Beagle wrote:And my take is the same as Breandán's. Your trans makes a complex idea out of an everyday run-of-the-mill one

Aontaím leat.

Redwolf

ar bith (and possibly the whole of rud ar bith) seems to be one of those constructions that has acquired a meaning as a unit, distinct from the way you'd read it literally. Like Dia duit or go n-éirí leat. I would imagine that most speakers wouldn't think to separate the phrase into its individual words so they could apply the eile to the bith. And by that reasoning, rud ar bith eile does (or at least can) mean "anything else".

Besides, it seems like a more likely thing to say than the alternative, "thing on another world".

David

Breandán wrote:rud ar bith = aon rud
rud ar bith eile = aon rud eile = "anything else" (see FGB under eile)

rud eile ar bith = "any other thing" (but not _that_ particular one)
rud eile ar fad "another matter altogether"