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	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 07:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on A realistic expectation by Ó Cuív? by Eoin</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/29#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@imothuairim: the government (except for some mutterings perhaps) has no push for a 'bilingual' population, and therefore I have no expectation for them to push for one! If it's not happening now, why would they help between now and 2050?

Overall, a stupid question, as the government is voted in every 5 years. But still, I see no overall change to policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@imothuairim: the government (except for some mutterings perhaps) has no push for a &#8216;bilingual&#8217; population, and therefore I have no expectation for them to push for one! If it&#8217;s not happening now, why would they help between now and 2050?</p>
<p>Overall, a stupid question, as the government is voted in every 5 years. But still, I see no overall change to policy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A realistic expectation by Ó Cuív? by imothuairim</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/29#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>imothuairim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Ireland, Irish signs should be as expected as English ones in England.

Quite why Gerald King is on an Irish Blog is somewhat of a mystery in the first place, but as Eoin says, the mapmakers are a fault if the names on the map aren't those on the signs.

Now, to move away from this bewildered tourist chat, as I said before: Ó Cúiv has realistic expectations, if he puts in some work. If I had any authority I should think he's setting the bar a little low.

A majority of the population speaking the language is possible in fifty years, if the government are prepared to stick their head out and get things done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Ireland, Irish signs should be as expected as English ones in England.</p>
<p>Quite why Gerald King is on an Irish Blog is somewhat of a mystery in the first place, but as Eoin says, the mapmakers are a fault if the names on the map aren&#8217;t those on the signs.</p>
<p>Now, to move away from this bewildered tourist chat, as I said before: Ó Cúiv has realistic expectations, if he puts in some work. If I had any authority I should think he&#8217;s setting the bar a little low.</p>
<p>A majority of the population speaking the language is possible in fifty years, if the government are prepared to stick their head out and get things done.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gaeilge i bpáipéar nuachta Slóivéineach by liam</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/28#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in english?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in english?</p>
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		<title>Comment on In the name of M&#8217;fhadaí by stwidgie</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/30#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>stwidgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nach gránna é, do shloinne a chloisteáil go mícheart?

Níl aon fada ar mo shloinne (Reshkin), ach bím cuíosach ceartaiseach nuair atá a litriú nó a fhuaimniú i gceist. Ní Rushkin nó Reschke nó Reskin nó Rashim nó Redskin mé (ní bréag í, scríobhadh mar sin é sa nuachtán áitiúil, fiú tar éis a thug mé me mo chárta gnó don tuairisceoir!).  Agus an rud céanna le sloinne mo fhéar céile. Ní Reagan nó Oregon é, seachas O'Regan (Ó Riagáin as Gaeilge, is dóigh liom).

Maith thú - bí ag chosaint do shloinne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nach gránna é, do shloinne a chloisteáil go mícheart?</p>
<p>Níl aon fada ar mo shloinne (Reshkin), ach bím cuíosach ceartaiseach nuair atá a litriú nó a fhuaimniú i gceist. Ní Rushkin nó Reschke nó Reskin nó Rashim nó Redskin mé (ní bréag í, scríobhadh mar sin é sa nuachtán áitiúil, fiú tar éis a thug mé me mo chárta gnó don tuairisceoir!).  Agus an rud céanna le sloinne mo fhéar céile. Ní Reagan nó Oregon é, seachas O&#8217;Regan (Ó Riagáin as Gaeilge, is dóigh liom).</p>
<p>Maith thú - bí ag chosaint do shloinne.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A realistic expectation by Ó Cuív? by Eoin</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/29#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We're going off topic with this mapping thing, but anyway...

If Michelin maps showed only "Anglicised" versions of placenames in Germany, who is wrong - the German road signs, or the Michelin map?

"Tourists" follow road signs for München, not Munich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re going off topic with this mapping thing, but anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>If Michelin maps showed only &#8220;Anglicised&#8221; versions of placenames in Germany, who is wrong - the German road signs, or the Michelin map?</p>
<p>&#8220;Tourists&#8221; follow road signs for München, not Munich.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A realistic expectation by Ó Cuív? by Al</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/29#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trying to find Dungloe and the sign says An Clochán Liath.   Now do turn left or right?   I have a michelin map, but the do not sell Ordinance Survey Ireland in my country.  Hang on, there is a sign ahead but half the sign is blacked out???  Where am I?  Dont they like tourists.  I thought Ireland was supposed to be a friendly country?

ONLY Ordinance Survey Ireland publish maps with the place names in two languages and NO map on sale in Europe does. Perhaps in Donegal An Clochán Liath could be large letters and Dungloe small.  In the rest of the country, Dublin large and Balie Atha Cliath small.   That would show which was the main spoken language in each area.   A Irish solution to a gaelic problem :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to find Dungloe and the sign says An Clochán Liath.   Now do turn left or right?   I have a michelin map, but the do not sell Ordinance Survey Ireland in my country.  Hang on, there is a sign ahead but half the sign is blacked out???  Where am I?  Dont they like tourists.  I thought Ireland was supposed to be a friendly country?</p>
<p>ONLY Ordinance Survey Ireland publish maps with the place names in two languages and NO map on sale in Europe does. Perhaps in Donegal An Clochán Liath could be large letters and Dungloe small.  In the rest of the country, Dublin large and Balie Atha Cliath small.   That would show which was the main spoken language in each area.   A Irish solution to a gaelic problem :-).</p>
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		<title>Comment on A realistic expectation by Ó Cuív? by Eoin</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/29#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:) Eejit, where are you from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Eejit, where are you from?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A realistic expectation by Ó Cuív? by Eejit</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/29#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Eejit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erse should only be spoken to cattle and dogs.  English is the language of power, money, and politics.  Even in West Britain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erse should only be spoken to cattle and dogs.  English is the language of power, money, and politics.  Even in West Britain.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A realistic expectation by Ó Cuív? by Eoin</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/29#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gerald: I do recognise that as a problem. But it's a MAPPING problem, where the map makers need to match official signage. Official maps are bilingual (Ordinance Survey Ireland). If other, say, Michelin maps do not include the Irish version, then it's their problem, not the language's problem.

The only reason I can guess that the sign was monolingual (except for vandalism) was that you were in the Gaeltacht region. Even then, there's no law preventing bilingual signs in the Gaeltacht pointing towards places outside of the Gaeltacht. While towns within the Gaeltacht can only be referred to by their Irish versions on road signs across the State, it's allowed to have a sign saying "Gaillimh Galway" within the Gaeltacht.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gerald: I do recognise that as a problem. But it&#8217;s a MAPPING problem, where the map makers need to match official signage. Official maps are bilingual (Ordinance Survey Ireland). If other, say, Michelin maps do not include the Irish version, then it&#8217;s their problem, not the language&#8217;s problem.</p>
<p>The only reason I can guess that the sign was monolingual (except for vandalism) was that you were in the Gaeltacht region. Even then, there&#8217;s no law preventing bilingual signs in the Gaeltacht pointing towards places outside of the Gaeltacht. While towns within the Gaeltacht can only be referred to by their Irish versions on road signs across the State, it&#8217;s allowed to have a sign saying &#8220;Gaillimh Galway&#8221; within the Gaeltacht.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A realistic expectation by Ó Cuív? by imothuairim</title>
		<link>http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/blog/content/29#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>imothuairim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were in English there would be no point to have french signs... bad example.

In France they do have French signs... we deal with it. Have Irish maps so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were in English there would be no point to have french signs&#8230; bad example.</p>
<p>In France they do have French signs&#8230; we deal with it. Have Irish maps so.</p>
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